2000 Verses

Charles

I make my money as a web developer at a tech security company. I chase my passions as a director for the Dallas Junior Chamber of Commerce Foundation. Over the last couple of years I've come to love this city, and I want to see it be as great as it can be. Why am I here?

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6 Responses

  1. Ariah Fine says:

    Charles,

    thanks for the post. I googled the verses thing and sawa your post. Interesting, and I understand your skepticism.

    At the same time, you can probably think of a long list of verses on the topic right off the top of your head, even if you weren't trying to.

    This definitely isn't a thousand, but a quick search on biblegateway got me to 230 just looking for four keywords:
    http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=poor+

    I talk a lot about the verses related to poverty, wealth, money etc. on my blog.

    Stop by sometime.

  2. Charles says:

    Thanks for the link. I have no problem acknowledging that Jesus and the prophets have quite a bit to say about the issues of poverty and justice.

    But why do we have to fudge the numbers by adding verses like this? is 200 not enough? Is the fact that it's a major theme woven throughout the Bible not enough?

    Poverty is huge in the Bible, but it's not the major issue. Serving the poor is a way to glorify God, but it's not the way, or even the primary way, to fulfill the Gospel.

  3. David B. Gladson says:

    I was recently asked the same question and have struggled to find a list of the 2000 verses online – a task of copy/paste which seems rather monumental.

    I did notice that when I added the words, "justice, just, needy, destitute, oppress" to the biblegateway keyword search above – the numbers of verses went to 826. I am sure there are many more that use other words besdies the above.

    I also once tried to start reading at the beginning of Genesis and cut/copy every verse that had to do with either the poor or our use of money. The task was overwhelming and I was unable to finish.

    I am glad to see cited where Jim Wallis and the early sojourners actually discovered over 2000 verses many years ago. See http://www.umc-gbcs.org/site/apps/nlnet/content.a….

    I am looking forward to getting the Poverty and Justice Bible to assist me in paying better attention to both my personal and political obligations for the sake of God's call on my/our lives.

  4. Devin Adint says:

    Charles,

    I too have been skeptical of this claim of 2000 verses. I decided to do an analysis and I've started in the New Testament. I included poor, needy, need, hunger, hungry, oppress, widow, orphan, and weak and came up with 207 verses. But I then evaluated each verse and could only really grant 73 direct correlations of which 7 were either subordinate to another concern or a negation of concern under specific circumstances. I then started researching other concerns and have the following preliminary numbers.

    Concern – Correlation – Negation – Subordinate – Total

    Doctrine – 291 – 4 – 0 – 295

    Judgment – 112 – 6 – 1 – 119

    Poverty – 66 – 6 – 1 – 73

    I did this research because several friends of mine have become very involved with the emergent church movement. From what I can tell the emergent church of which Jim Wallis and Tony Campolo are apart is really just rehashing Liberation Theology. Let me know your thoughts.

    Regards,

    Devin

  5. Elisa Rush says:

    To me, it is less important to know the number of verses on poverty or justice and more important to know all of scripture and try to wisely balance it in my life. Although many like to say we have to leave the church out of government or politics, as an American with the responsibility to vote and guide my representative that is ludricous. Whatever a voter believes will influence his decisions, lifestyle, and expectations.

    What is more glaring to me are how many passages and ideas God communicates that are taken out of context or flatly ignored that undermine the political idea of Social Justice. These ideas include stewardship, allowing consequences, understanding consequences and their role in life, dealing with reality and not supposed judgements, emphasis on taking care of those unable to care for themselves, wisely dealing with the roots of problems and not a one-sized-fits-all, throw-money-at-it solution… I could go on and on.

    In my opinion, the worst problem we have in the church is a lack of knowing the whole counsel of God. If we could deal with that root issue in the church, misinformed pastors couldn't take root and the spontaneous obedience of true believers would far outweigh any social justice program a government could conceive. It would never reach a utopic heaven on earth because of sin, but it would blast a message to the world that God cares and so do we!

  6. Annie says:

    The “our father” – your kingdom come, your will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven. As you should know, Jesus is very concerned that some semblance of a Kingdom – His Kingdom be made on this Earth even today. The trouble is that rich nations just keep wanting to pile up their riches with no one letting any go to the poor. They are so blind that they don’t even see their own insecurity – They scorn the jobless and the homeless calling them lazy bums. I have seen Christians narrow their eyes to slits when confronted with an unemployed person thinking I am sure of apostle Pauls words about working for ones bread. The luke warm will always find a “get out” clause to suit them but we know that the bible is completely accurate and true being fully fledged followers of Jesus and hence their justifications are wrong/out of context. God really does want everyone on this Earth to have a good life without any one or group of individuals claiming more than a fair share.

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